Apr 282024
 
Andru Phillips, Kentucky Wildcats (December 29, 2023)

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The New York Giants entered the 2024 offseason with a multitude of question marks and needs in the franchise’s attempt to close the enormous talent gap that exists between it and the top teams in the NFC. As of April 28, 2024, the day after the 2024 NFL Draft, this is where the team stands:

  • Players acquired by trade: 1
  • Players signed in free agency: 14
  • Players drafted: 6

These totals do not include the nine re-signed free agents, the two “street” free agents signed in January, and approximately nine undrafted rookie free agents the team is expected to sign in coming days. The Giants are also likely sign a veteran free agent or two in the coming weeks to address positions not adequately addressed in the draft.

As I predicted in the closing summary of my New York Giants 2024 NFL Draft Needs article, no one is happy after this draft. The needs were too great. The picks were too few. Some knew that going into the draft. Others are only realizing that reality just now. Some continue to lash out, unable or unwilling to accept the situation.

So let’s do a quick and dirty overview of what has been accomplished in the last two months.

In March, these were the team’s top needs (red highlighting the most critical areas):

  • “Franchise” quarterback
  • Offensive line mess
  • Defense-altering edge rusher
  • Offense-altering #1 wide receiver
  • Running back
  • Tight end
  • Starting defensive tackle
  • Outside cornerback
  • Nickel cornerback
  • Safety

Via the 21 players acquired to date, the franchise has “subtracted” from that list the following:

  • Offensive line: Signed five veteran free agents, including three to multi-year contracts.
  • Edge rusher: Acquired Pro Bowl outside linebacker Brian Burns by trade.
  • #1 wide receiver: Drafted Malik Nabers with the 6th overall pick.
  • Running back: signed Devin Singletary in free agency and drafted Tyrone Tracy.
  • Tight end: signed blocking tight ends Jack Stoll and Chris Manhertz in free agency and drafting Theo Johnson.
  • Defensive tackle: signed Jordan Phillips as a stop-gap.
  • Nickel corner: drafted Andru Phillips.
  • Safety: signed stop-gap Jalen Mills and drafted Tyler Nubin.

That leaves the following areas unaddressed or at least continuing to have significant question marks:

  • Quarterback
  • Remaining offensive line issues
  • Starting defensive tackle
  • Outside cornerback

So in summary, much was done. But significant issues remain. Let’s review by position:

Quarterback: This is the biggest point of controversy. The topic will remain the #1 cause for concern among the fan base for at least the next 12 months. All the team has done this offseason is replace Tyrod Taylor with Drew Lock. They did heavily scout the 2024 quarterback class, but did not address the position in the draft. It appears a serious attempt and offer was made to trade up to the #3 overall selection in order to draft Drake Maye. New England rejected the Giants’ offer, which also reportedly included the team’s 2025 #1 pick. With the three top quarterbacks out of reach, the Giants passed on J.J. McCarthy, Michael Penix, and Bo Nix at #6 and watched all three get drafted in the next six picks. Did the Giants make a mistake by not drafting one of these three at #6? That remains to be seen. Only five other quarterbacks were drafted (two in the 5th round, two in the 6th round, and one in the 7th round).

Again, given that three of the quarterbacks were out of reach (Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, Drake Maye) and five other quarterbacks went late in the draft, the only real question here is should the Giants have passed on Malik Nabers and drafted McCarthy, Penix, or Nix? Some would argue the Giants should have traded down and picked one of these three, but keep in mind they were selected at #8, #10, and #12. Needless to say, the careers of these three will be closely monitored by Giants fans. It will be a bad look for the New York Giants if they flourish. On the other hand, the team will be vindicated if they are only middle-of-the-road quarterbacks or worse.

There are those who believe the Giants never really had any intention of replacing Daniel Jones. That their interest in this quarterback class was a publicity stunt or a tactic to cause Marvin Harrison, Jr. or Malik Nabers to fall into their lap. Perhaps their intent was to encourage another team to offer the Giants an enticing deal? We’ll never know. But right or wrong, it does appear that the Giants made the determination that there were only three quarterbacks in this draft class who were worthy of leading this team forward. Williams and Daniels were clearly out of reach; the Patriots ultimately rejected the Giants on Maye.

Where does that leaves us? Daniel Jones and/or Drew Lock will start for the Giants in 2024. The team will then have to re-evaluate the position in January 2025. That’s the reality of the situation. If Jones continues to struggle or gets hurt again, the situation could turn ugly. I hope he proves us wrong.

Wide Receiver: The only wide receiver in franchise history that has been drafted higher than Malik Nabers was Kyle Rote in 1951. The hope is the Giants have now drafted their version of Ja’Marr Chase or Justin Jefferson. Or Odell Beckham, Jr. without the annoying drama. Nabers should instantly transform the entire offense and elevate the play of everyone around him, including the quarterback. Opposing defensive coordinators will have to game plan specifically for him. The good news is that Brian Daboll and Mike Kafka are creative enough to use Nabers at a variety of spots, including X, Z, and from the slot. He can turn any short pass into a long touchdown. Jalin Hyatt and Wan’Dale Robinson will face less attention and should thrive as well. Overnight, the Giants’ wide receiver room went from a weakness to a strength. Adding Nabers was a franchise-altering selection.

Running Back: There has been much national media attention on the loss of Saquon Barkley, without the recognition that Barkley really only had two good seasons with the Giants. Much of that had to do with surrounding talent and injuries, but that was the reality of the situation. The team also tended to use him exclusively at the position with the other backs being afterthoughts. That now has changed as the team appears set to use a real running back-by-committee approach. Devin Singletary (whose yards per carry average is actually higher than Saquon’s) is part of that equation. So now is 5th-round draft selection Tyrone Tracy, an elusive back who is tough to tackle and makes big plays as a runner and receiver. Also factoring into the competition is last year’s 5th rounder, Eric Gray, who barely touched the ball as a rookie. Gary Brightwell is a bigger back who has flashed at times and is good special teams player. Long-shot rookie Dante Miller offers speed, moves, and return ability.

Tight End: Most are assuming that disappointing tease and injury-prone Darren Waller will retire. Schoen should have kept the 3rd round draft pick. The Giants made an obvious effort to improve their blocking at the position with the free agent acquisitions of Jack Stoll and Chris Manhertz, two under-the-radar signings who could have a bigger-than-realized impact. If he develops, Theo Johnson (4th round selection) offers a huge 6’6” target in the passing game, particularly in the red zone. He can also threaten seams vertically. Daniel Bellinger, who will likely start, needs to rebound from a disappointing sophomore season. It will be interesting to see what new Tight Ends Coach Tim Kelly (Tennessee’s former offensive coordinator) has on the position too.

Offensive Line: The most tiresome and annoying complaint by fans is that the Giants don’t care about fixing the offensive line. You would be hard-pressed to find a team who has dedicated more free agent and draft resources in the last decade on the offensive line than the Giants. It’s the results that have sucked, not the effort. The current regime drafted offensive linemen with 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and 5th round picks in their first two drafts. Five offensive linemen were signed this offseason. At some point, these players need to be developed and coached up into an effective, cohesive unit. No team can afford to keep spending their 1st, 2nd, and 3rd round picks on one position.

Evan Neal, John Michael Schmitz, Josh Ezeudu, and Markus McKethan have all been hurt (three seriously) and all have struggled. It’s up to Brian Daboll and new offensive line coaches Carmen Bricillo and James Ferentz to get them to play better. Add the veteran additions of Jon Runyan, Jr., Jermaine Eluemunor, Matt Nelson, Aaron Stinnie, and Austin Schlottmann – all of whom have started in this league, including at center, guard, and tackle. In an ideal world, with more draft capital, the Giants would have preferred to have drafted another guard/tackle prospect to compete. They still may add a body in free agency and they have already signed undrafted rookie free agents. The bodies are there. It’s up to the team to make it work.

Defensive Line: Dexter Lawrence remains arguably the best defensive tackle in the game. The Giants have an established veterans in Rakeem Nunez-Roches and Jordan Phillips, and two youngsters yet to prove themselves in D.J. Davidson and Jordon Riley. Ideally, the Giants would have liked to have added a pass-rushing, 3-technique defensive tackle in the draft. With only six picks, and a run on defensive tackles before the Giants selected in the 2nd round, that did not happen. The Giants can get by with what they have, but this is a position that will likely be addressed in the 2025 offseason.

Edge: Many fans continue to underrate or underappreciate the significance of the acquisition of the 26-year old Brian Burns. He’s a proven difference-maker as an outside pass rusher and equates to another 1st-round pick from this draft. He will team with Kayvon Thibodeaux and Azeez Ojulari to give the Giants one of the better edge groups in the league. Since Ojulari has been injury prone and is on the last year of his rookie deal, the team ideally would have liked to have added another edge player. That too, will have to be addressed in 2025. Jack-of-all-trades Isaiah Simmons was re-signed too and could be utilized in wide-9 fronts.

Linebacker: If new Defensive Coordinator Shane Bowen follows form from his days in Tennessee, nickel and dime packages will be more prevalent than a base defense with two traditional inside linebackers on the field. In other words, the Giants are probably in really good shape here as long as Bobby Okereke remains healthy. The team did add instinctive overachiever and special teams stud Darius Muasau in the 6th round. Micah McFadden could also be pressed by holdover youngsters Darrian Beavers and Dyontae Johnson.

Cornerback: One of the team’s issues has been finding a nickel corner who can not only handle the ever-growing threat of dynamic slot receivers in the NFL, but also defend the run when the team is in nickel and dime packages. Darnay Holmes and Cor’Dale Flott have flashed but also disappointed at times at this position. Enter 3rd-round selection Andru Phillips, a sticky, physical, and aggressive coverman with inside-outside flexibility. He was a favorite of many draft pundits because of play and demeanor. Like Deontae Banks, Phillips has a good shot to start as a rookie either at nickel corner and/or outside corner. Flott and Holmes are also still in the picture and should not be discounted. So is 2021 3rd rounder Aaron Robinson who also offers inside-outside flexility.

If Phillips plays inside, the question is who will be the outside corner opposite of Banks? The ideal answer would be 2022 6th rounder Tre Hawkins, who combines excellent size and athleticism. A small school prospect, he won the starting job as a rookie, but was quickly benched. Nick McCloud was re-signed and the Giants have indicated that Flott will be given a shot outside as well. He has the height and cover skills, but is rail thin and must improve his tackling and physicality. Keep in mind Aaron Robinson won the starting job in 2022 before tearing his ACL. Long story short is this position may work itself out. Or the team may have to address in the 2025 offseason.

Safety: The issue here was not only the departure of Xavier McKinney in free agency, but the defensive shift from Wink Martindale’s single-high safety, man-to-man schemes to Shane Bowen’s two-deep, split-safety schemes that are so prevalent in the NFL. While the safety position is important in both schemes, the emphasis on specific traits is much different. That’s why the selection of Tyler Nubin in the 2nd round should shock no one. Nubin was employed in this style of defense in college and offers the physical and mental skillset needed to make Bowen’s defense work. My guess is he was one of the few targets of the team in the 2nd round. Nubin has a chance to start from day one. He will become a coach and fan favorite.

What remains to be seen is who nails down the other safety spot. Jason Pinnock is the leading contender but could be pressed by Dane Belton, Jalen Mills, and Gervarrius Owens.

Special Teams: The Giants have quietly added a ton of special teams players to the roster. It’s not likely all of these guys will make the team, but they all have strong special teams reputations/skills. This includes Tyler Nubin, Darius Muasau, Isaiah McKenzie, Jack Stoll, Miles Boykin, and Matthew Adams. The Giants also re-signed Gunner Olszewski, Nick McCloud, Darnay Holmes, Carter Coughlin, and Isaiah Simmons.

Summary: While everyone is down because of the needs that remain on this team, the Giants did accomplish a lot this offseason. A shell-shocked fan base understandably remains doubtful, but the receiving corps, pass rush, and offensive line should be vastly better in 2025. Important transitions are taking place at running back, tight end, and in the secondary.

What’s are the problems? It’s quarterback. It’s what is driving most of the fan angst right now. The other issues (pass-rushing defensive tackle, maybe another corner, more quality on the offensive line) can be easily addressed next offseason. But it is the quarterback position that has everyone worked up. Does the team even agree with the fans that it is a problem? The trade attempt for Drake Maye suggests so, but others will point to passing on McCarthy, Penix, and Nix as an indication that John Mara is living in a fantasy world or the team needs to be unrealistically in “full bloom love” with its next franchise quarterback before dropping Daniel Jones.

My take is this: I’ve said since November 2023, there is a huge risk to tripling down on Daniel Jones for this regime. The quarterback position is too important and things can spin out of control pretty quickly with poor play or another injury. On the flip side, it is not impossible for Jones to surpass his career-best 2022 season given his vastly improved surrounding cast. Does that mean he is the answer? No. But if he can stay healthy (a big if) and isn’t mentally shot (a big if), there is no comparison with the weapons he has now compared to the first five years of his career. As always, much depends on the offensive line too. It’s not also impossible for Drew Lock to seize the position if the Giants allow an actual open competition. That remains to be seen.

Should the Giants have passed on Nabers and taken McCarthy, Penix, or Nix? I don’t know. I would not have felt comfortable with that scenario either. While quarterback is clearly more important than wide receiver, Nabers was more of a “sure thing” in terms of his ability to transform the entire offense. I can appreciate and understand both arguments. McCarthy is in a great position in Minnesota to succeed. His supporting cast there is much stronger than he would have had here with a Naber-less Giants team. It will be fascinating to watch how he does. Penix is stuck behind Kirk Cousins in Atlanta. Nix was drafted by the coach/system everyone felt was perfect for him. We will have to see how they all do.

The course the Giants ultimately chose to take does make sense as much as the other argument. There is no correct path to build a team. Had the Giants whiffed on the quarterback and not drafted Nabers, that would have been a real disaster. But barring a miraculous turnaround by Jones or Lock, the Giants #1 priority next offseason is quarterback. No excuses.

Apr 272024
 
Theo Johnson, Penn State Nittany Lions (October 14, 2023)

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FINAL DAY OF 2024 NFL DRAFT; GIANTS SELECT THREE MORE PLAYERS…
On the third and final day of the 2024 NFL Draft, the New York Giants selected:

  • 4th Round: TE Theo Johnson, 6’6”, 259lbs, 4.57, Penn State University
  • 5th Round: RB Tyrone Tracy, Jr., 5’11”, 209lbs, 4.48, Purdue University
  • 6th Round: LB Darius Muasau, 6’0”, 225lbs, 4.7, UCLA

Sy’56’s Scouting Report on TE Theo Johnson: Three-year starter. All-Big Ten in 2023. Johnson has the prototype body merged with soft hands and quick feet to pose as a potential starting tight end in the league. He has shown flashes of being a matchup nightmare for both linebackers and defensive backs. The catch radius and sheer weight he can play should help with some of the short area movement issues he shows as a route runner and ball carrier to have at least a quality backup outlook. The athletic upside he possesses leaves the door open to a bigger role. He brings a rare blend of size and speed to the table that coaches will want a crack at developing. Johnson needs to clean up some of the fine points of the position to reach his ceiling, but the floor with him is high to feel safe about him providing solid rotational play, at least.

*I’ll say this right now. Johnson has the ceiling to be the top tight end in this class (including Bowers). That fact alone leads me to believe he should be graded a bit higher. But the number is the number. He has several flashes on tape combined with a historic blend of size, explosion, and speed. At this time, however, he is a better athlete than he is a football player. I felt that way after watching tape and when I saw him in person at the Senior Bowl. It looks like he is still learning his body and simply lacks some important coordination and football reaction speed. Worth the gamble because he could change an offense. Maybe a similar trajectory we have seen with Cole Kmet with the Bears.

Sy’56’s Scouting Report on RB Tyrone Tracy, Jr.: Sixth-year senior. Four-year starter that spent four seasons at Iowa before his final two at Purdue. Tracy will turn 25 years old as a rookie but in terms of running back age, he is younger than most. He played wide receiver from 2018-2022 before moving into the backfield full time in his final year. In that one season, Tracy finished fourth in the country in yards after contact per attempt in the country among backs with over 100 carries. His career was sputtering, as his best season as a receiver came in 2019. The smooth position move opened a door, one that is searching for pass game weapons out of the backfield. Tracy is not a dynamic or explosive athlete, but he simply knows what to do with the ball in his hands and it shows up as a returner as well. His progression will be an interesting one to follow, one with a high ceiling.

*Tracy is one of the more interesting prospects in the entire draft. He runs like he doesn’t always know what he’s doing but that is part of the intrigue. What happens to him if it does click? He is already productive, and he is already a top-shelf pass catcher the position. He already adds return value. Something about him simply makes sense for a chance on day three because Singletary could easily be elsewhere before the end of 2024, let alone pre-2025. And I view that as the season this team can be ready to compete.

Sy’56’s Scouting Report on LB Darius Muasau: Fifth-year senior, four-year starter. Spent three seasons at Hawaii where he was first team All-Mountain West two times. Transferred to UCLA in 2022 where he was All-Pac 12 in both 2023 and 2022. Muasau is a productive run defender who can lead a defense from the middle. He is an experienced shot caller who understands blocking schemes a step or two ahead, which helps him get on the right side of blockers as he attacks downhill. Muasau does not have the size or athletic tool set to factor against the pass, whether it be as a pass rusher or cover man. His usage at the next level will be limited to early down duty and special teams. The toughness, dependability, and football IQ can keep him on a roster as a quality, dependable backup and role player.

*Muasau is a guy who will be drafted late for special teams alone. This is the kind of guy who teams look for toward the back end to beef up their presence on kickoff/punt cover units. As a middle linebacker, Muasau is not athletic enough to check all of the boxes but he is a dependable player between the tackles. His range is limited, but his dependable and consistent interior run defense can provide something for a team that needs help there.

Media Q&A with General Manager Joe Schoen and Head Coach Brian Daboll (Video):

JOE SCHOEN: It’s been a long process to get to this point. I’d be remiss if I didn’t thank my leadership group, Brandon Brown, Tim McDonnell, Dennis Hickey, Chris Rossetti, Ryan Cowden, along with all the coaches, there’s a lot of hard work that goes into this. They are sent out to Pro Days and Zooms with the prospects, and Dabs is nice enough to give them a week off in late March.

And unfortunately sometimes there’s Pro Days during that time when these coaches have to give up vacation with their family to go visit with these draft prospects and help us in our process to make the decisions and draft these kids.

So hats off to the personnel staff, the coaching staff, everybody in this building as far as process. There’s a lot that goes into it, and you know, I like where we ended up this weekend and now that it’s all said and done, we still have free agency and we are out there working on that now. I feel like we’re in a good spot after the Draft.

Q. Your roster isn’t finalized, but how do you feel as the roster stands?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, I think where we are right now, coming into the off-season, between what we did in free agency, the Draft today, the trade for Brian Burns. Again, we always have room to grow and always have room to improve. I say it all the time, we don’t play until September, so there’s still time between now and September where we can acquire players, the final cutdown, whatever it may be.

I like the group that we have right now. Excited to get the rookies in here, assimilate them into our culture, get on the grass, practice and then as we observe and evaluate the players as we’re going through it, if we still have needs, there will probably be some vets that will be released over the next couple weeks, as well. There’s always going to be a time and a place where you can add some more players. We’ll see where we are now, and as we go through the competition period and training camp, if there are other areas we need to fill, we’ll try to do that.

Q. Was tight end a priority because you don’t know what’s going to happen with Darren?

JOE SCHOEN: We had to take that into account for sure. But you know, Theo was the top player on our board. I’m trying to think, if there were any of these guys that we took that weren’t the top player on the board at the time…last night we left, he was sticking out for us. You always think when you come in the next morning, he’s going to go sooner and may not be there and we’re excited to get Theo.

Q. You didn’t take a quarterback in this draft. You tried to move up, or at least had conversations about moving up for a quarterback in this draft. Where do you consider yourself at the quarterback position now for this year and for the future?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, for me, I said it in January after the season. Our expectation was Daniel would be our starter and we brought Drew Lock to be his backup and Tommy is a backup, so that’s where we are and that’s how we’ll move forward this season. Daniel is still under contract for three more years. As it sits today, that’s where we are.

Q. While you were doing all that work and going to places like Washington and LSU and Carolina, was the design during that time to try to make sure you were coming out of this draft with a young developmental quarterback, or did you view it as due diligence that wasn’t necessarily going to come to fruition?

JOE SCHOEN: You know, I understand your question. If you look at the Pro Days we went to, there’s quality and quantity. You look at LSU, there’s a lot of good players at other positions we did take, no different than Washington. Washington won a lot of games and went to the National Championship, so they had a lot of players.

Q. I guess I should throw in the Drake Maye and JJ, the private workouts —

JOE SCHOEN: What’s the question in regard to the private workouts?

Q. All the work you did, I should have mentioned those.

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, I could name 15 other players we did private workouts at other positions. Again, we are going to continue to do our due diligence. You get six, seven swings, you want to make sure you know as much as you can about each prospect.

And I think being around these kids on their campus, boots on the ground, dinner, setting up Pro Days, whatever it may be, I think you can find out a lot about prospects. It’s not just quarterbacks we did private workouts with. We are always going to do our due diligence across the board.

Q. Taking the due diligence on quarterbacks, basically where you’re picking, people assumed you were looking to move on from Daniel. Did do you like recommit to him?

JOE SCHOEN: I’ve said it before, it’s not just right now. I mean, Dabs and I went through this in 2017 and we have intimate knowledge of that class, whether it was Lamar Jackson, Sam Darnold, Baker Mayfield, Mason Rudolph, you can go through it. We know those guys. We have a very good feel. Last year’s draft, we spent time with C.J. Stroud, we spent time with Will Levis. Now we know what these kids are about if they ever become free agents or they are on the trade market.

I think it’s a different position when you are evaluating. You can watch all the film you want, but there’s a reason at that position guys succeed and they fail and it’s not just because of the tape. The three years we’ve been here, we have done a lot of work on the quarterbacks. Maybe it hasn’t been as public or maybe it hasn’t been as well covered but we’ll always do that because of the importance of the position and what goes into it.

You can’t just throw the tape on and say, ‘OK, I’ll sign that guy.’ There’s a personal makeup, there is a way you carry yourself; leadership, processing information. It’s not easy. This guy calls a play in some of these meetings and says regurgitate it to me and then you have to go call out the Mike and then you’ve got to change the play and you’ve got to shift this guy and oh, by the way, you have to snap the ball and figure out where you’re throwing it to. That’s not easy.

So I think spending time with this position is very, very important, whether it’s today or down the road or in the future.

Q. Have you spoken directly to Daniel to maybe share with him some of what Joe was saying or to ask him if he has a question? Have you done anything out of the norm because of this situation with Daniel?

BRIAN DABOLL: I talk to the entire team, but I meet with the quarterbacks daily. I spend a lot of time with them every day.

So you know, you’re just transparent with the entire team about the whole draft process. You’re trying to improve your team. You know, the last meeting we had, I showed a picture up here of all of our area scouts, Joe, his leadership group that he mentioned, and you know, part of their role is to help improve our football team by creating competition.

And then there’s a human element, too. If you’re sitting in there and you’re in the receiver room and we draft Malik Nabers, there’s a human element to that, too. So I think you have to be transparent. There’s a draft every year. There’s free agency every year. We start out the meeting by any new players that are here that weren’t here last year, stand up, and any guys that were drafted by Joe and the staff, stand up. It’s different every year. The teams are different. It’s constructed different.

But I think that opens lines of communication whether it’s D.J., whether it’s with Tommy, whether it’s with the receivers, the D-Linemen and the linebackers, running backs. I encourage all of our coaches to do that because I think that’s important to be transparent, whether it’s, again, free agency, draft. There’s constant turnover. So the communication lines are definitely very important.

Q. The first night, we were talking about Nabors, the idea was presented to you, the idea that you were giving Daniel a weapon, seemed like — a weapon for the offense. Is there a sense where you’re now trying to build what you want from your offense and what you want from your defense, and it’s not necessarily a specific player but it’s also kind of what you believe now, want to have, as far as what you’re going to do offensively?

BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, I think — generators.

Q. Generators?

BRIAN DABOLL: Yeah, people that can do stuff with the ball in their hands. Whether that’s take a jet sweep and go 30 yards or whether that’s running a double move and catch it 50 yards down the field to help you score points. You know, just to go back to Malik, I feel that he is that.

Now, he’s got a lot of work to do. There’s a big playbook to learn. You’ve got to try to slow it down for these young players when they get in. But anyone that can touch the ball — and linemen can be generators, too, in a different way, by keeping the pocket clean, by getting movement at the line of scrimmage.

So I wouldn’t say that it’s necessarily — you’ve got to wait to see what you have and then try to move pieces around and see where — Theo, where he fits it in, where Malik fits in, there are different positions to play. There’s five eligible players on every play and you try to use those guys the best you can. But they have to come in here and prove it and earn the right to play.

Q. Where does Tyrone Tracy in that kind of mold? He’s going to be 25.

BRIAN DABOLL: Some of these guys are older, too, relative to what people have been through the past few years, I would say, COVID and all those other things. Some guys are a little bit older. He’s a former receiver. In terms of yards per carry, he’s been pretty good. He’s an athlete who has played receiver and then played running back and has some good production. We’ll throw him in the mix. Whether that’s in the kickoff return game or whether that’s at running back or the receiving part of it, we’ve got to do a good job of getting him in here and seeing where he’s at and then trying to fit him into the things that he can do well.

Q. Joe, how do you feel, this is sort of like the last major portion of the off-season. Usually there’s major additions, I assume for the most part, you probably don’t have much more to add. You put resources into the offensive line in free agency, you added Malik, you added Theo. How do you feel about the offense now?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, I think, what Dabs said it earlier. Once we get on the field and see how the pieces work together, we’ll have a better feel. Dabs is one of the better ones I’ve been around. It’s not his system, like we are going to run this — a square peg in a round hole. We are going to go out there and see what routes these guys can run well, what they can do. There are some new pieces. What do they do best and how can we accentuate that. How can we get them in positions where they can perform the best.

I like some of the pieces we have. I like some of the upgrades. Again, you can throw Brian Burns in the draft, as well, that pick 39, to bring on a 25-year-old, two-time Pro Bowler as a pass rusher as part of this draft class. I like some of the moves that we made in the off-season. We still have work to do and I just think it’s year three and we are just going to continue to build the roster and the team. I think where we are with some of the contract status, like I talked about last night; that you can keep a core group together over a two- to three-year window, and you have another off-season and another draft, and then you look up and there’s some really good pieces on the table.

Q. Are you guys going to add a quarterback as an undrafted free agent?

BRIAN DABOLL: We’ll have for rookie camp here in two weeks time, we’ll have a number of players come in. You need to bring in a quarterback to operate some seven on seven and things that you want to do. We’ll bring someone in, whether that’s tryout or whatever it may be and we’ll go from there.

Q. Could you do me one quickie on the kid from UCLA, what did you see from him?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, he’s a good football player. He was actually with Ghoby (Michael Ghobrial), our special teams coach, they crossed paths at Hawaii. 440 career tackles, hasn’t missed a game, smart, tough, dependable, instinctive. Our special teams coach, he’s coached him, has a vision for him on special teams. He was at the East-West, and I would say — Tyrone Tracy was, too. Having our coaches and Shea at the Senior Bowl with Theo. I think there’s a little bit of competitive advantage in terms of — again, going back to Dabs’ staff and their willingness to sacrifice their time to help us in this process, and I would say all three of those guys that we took today, our coaches had intimate knowledge of those guys from the all-star games.

So we are excited about Darius. He’s a good football player. He’s a good football player.

Media Q&A with Theo Johnson:

Q. Congratulations.

THEO JOHNSON: Thank you.

Q. Just curious, what the process was like, you were probably thinking maybe you got picked last night. What’s it been like the last 24 hours for you?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, you know, was hoping for day two and just the way the Draft shook out this year — wasn’t in the cards for me but I think I got picked exactly when I was supposed to and exactly where I was supposed to.

Q. You obviously visited here. Did you have any indication that this could be one of the more likely landing spots?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, you know, since the beginning of this process, you know, the Giants were very clear with their interest in me. I worked closely with Shea Tierney at the Senior Bowl and feel like we got a really good feel for each other.

Went to school and worked with Christian Daboll, Brian Daboll’s son, when he was at Penn State. So pretty early on, they showed a lot of interest and it was clear that this was definitely a potential landing spot for me.

Q. What was your visit like? Did you come on the local day or did you come on a separate visit?

THEO JOHNSON: I actually didn’t visit the Giants.

Q. How would you describe your game?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, I’d describe my game as gritty, explosive and powerful. I think that I can get dirty in the trenches but also be a real factor in the pass game.

Q. It’s easy just to look up stats on a player and see catches, yards, touchdowns, things like that. Players play in all kinds of different systems and better offenses and better passing games. What kind of a threat do you think you are as a pass catcher and a receiver?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, I give defenses a real problem because I have the speed and also the sheer size and power. When you have both of those as a tight end it makes it really hard to defend because I can get up in your body and create separation or use my speed or use both. I think that’s going to give a lot of people challenges when it comes to defending me.

Q. You mentioned your time with Shea down at the Senior Bowl, I assume it was, right. What’s that week like when you’re spending as much time with coaches and do you almost develop an affinity and see their relationship with you as you’re going through the whole process?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, it’s a really cool experience. It’s nothing like anything else in this football aspect, all the way from high school and camps and all that stuff. It’s super different. You’ve got coaches from all over the league coming together for a week with kids all over the country, and then making a team in a five-day period to play a game.

So that week, you get a real good feel for coaches and their style of coaching and how they do things. I think me and Shea had a lot of fun together with just what he was dialing up, and the feel he got for me as a player, and obviously I was kind of rooting for the Giants since then because I had a really good feel for him and how he’s doing things.

Q. Looking at the Giants roster, what did they tell you about how you might fit in or where do you think you can make a difference here?

THEO JOHNSON: Haven’t had any specific discussions about the roster and where that might lie.

What I do know is that I’m going to come in and I’m going to work from day one, and whatever role I earn will be one that I earned, and I’m going to do my very best to show everybody in the building that I deserve to be taken seriously and I’m going to work for every single thing that shows up on tape.

Q. Your size and speed and just the scouting report, you seem similar in some ways to Darren Waller. Is that a guy you’ve watched and do you think you see similarities there?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, I’ve definitely watched Darren Waller. I have a lot of respect for his game. You know, he’s someone that has really established himself in the league, and I’m really looking forward to being in the same room as him and just hearing his wisdom from what he’s been through, not only in his career and his life but I’m really looking forward to being his teammate.

Q. Any disappointment Saquon isn’t still here?

THEO JOHNSON: It’s funny, he actually just texted me and congratulated me. Would have been really cool to play with him if he was still around but we’ll see how things shake out in the future but I think I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be.

Q. Any other tight ends that you’ve modeled your game after or at least try to take some things from them watching them play?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, growing up, I watched a lot of Tony G (Gonzalez). People would always tell me that I reminded them of Tony G when they watched me play, so I watched him. And then more recently, I watch a ton of George Kittle. I have a ton of respect for the way he approaches the game as a tight end. I think he’s one of the last of the true tight ends that can do everything you need, can block a head-up six on power and make the tough catch on third and fourth down. I have a lot of respect for those guys’ game.

Q. Do you think you can be one of those players? Do you think you can be a George Kittle for the Giants?

THEO JOHNSON: I think I’m definitely capable of being a tight end that you can’t take off the field with all the attributes that I have and I’m going to work for that. I know I have work to do and I’m going to do the work it’s going to take to be a George Kittle and be a guy that you just don’t want to take off the field because I can do every single thing you’re asking your tight end to do.

Q. You mentioned two guys that are really good blockers and you said you wanted to show that you’re a tight end that can be on the field at all times. Where would you say you are in the blocking progression at this point?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, I think looking back from freshman year when I came in, I played receiver in high school, I can count on two hands the amount of times I put my hand in the dirt in high school.

So I’ve only been blocking for four years, and I think just looking at my growth from freshman year to now, it’s not even comparable to where I’m at. And the exciting thing for me is there’s still so much more growth to be had there, and I think when it’s all said and done, I’m going to be a very dominant blocker. I have room to improve and I think that’s somewhere that every tight end will tell you that they have room to prove in the blocking game but I definitely think that’s an area that with more work and attention to detail, I can be very dominant.

Q. Whenever you mention the idea of, was it going to be last night, was it going to be today, how did you approach it? I know some guys are hesitant to have parties, have people together because you just don’t know. What has your last 12 hours been like? Did you get people together? Was it disappointing last night? How did you approach it?

THEO JOHNSON: Yeah, I had people at the house last night. Had a little party. All people super close to me. People that have had a hand in my process. So it was — it didn’t go the way that I planned it to go or thought it was going to be but everybody understood and knew that it just part of God’s plan for me going today and I think me going today just tells me that I’m exactly where I’m supposed to be and I went exactly when I was supposed to.

Q. Did you invite them back today?

THEO JOHNSON: I had a few people come back. A lot of people had flights or things that they had to do today, so they couldn’t make it back. But the people that were still around came back.

Media Q&A with Darius Muasau:

Q. Which coach hit you up? We know you have a relationship with Ghobi (Special Teams Coordinator Michael Ghobrial).

DARIUS MUASAU: Yeah, Ghobi is my guy. I was at the University of Hawai’i with him. He was my special teams coordinator. I was on the phone with him just chopping it up and he told me that I was getting drafted. Man, I was just very excited and just happy at the moment.

Q. So I assume besides being a linebacker, you play special teams?

DARIUS MUASAU: Yes, I have to.

Q. Did you play special teams all four years or just the two years in Hawai’i or how did that break down for you?

DARIUS MUASAU: I started playing special teams a lot during my freshman year at the University of Hawai’i. As my playing time on the defense started rising, my playing time with special teams kind of dwindled. I did play special teams all three years at the University of Hawai’i.

Q. What was your contact with the Giants during the pre-draft process?

DARIUS MUASAU: It was very limited. I mostly talked with Coach Ghobi and some scouts at the time. I also had a bunch of coaches over there at the Shrine Bowl who were in contact with me and I was being coached up by them over there at the Bowl game and it was really unexpected for me. I did not expect it until I got that phone call, and then it really just hit me.

Q. What do you know about New York and the Giants? Obviously, you’re a West Coast guy.

DARIUS MUASAU: Nothing much but I’m looking forward to adapting to the culture everything and about it. I’m going to be a New York guy from here on out (laughter).

Q. How would you describe if someone asked you to give me a scouting report on yourself, we read everything, but what do you think you bring to the table?

DARIUS MUASAU: One thing that I pride myself on is being the most instinctive and smartest player on the field every time I step on the field. I love to watch film. That’s what I do. I spend most of my days in the film room and also on the field but mostly in the film room breaking down film, knowing tendencies, and little details of the offense and I feel that’s what I do best. That’s why I’m headed to New York, and I’m just ready to showcase my abilities there.

Q. As a linebacker, are you inside, outside, or what?

DARIUS MUASAU: I’ll play anything the coaches want me to. But I feel the most comfortable being the green dot of the team, being able to distribute the calls to the team, and making sure everyone is set, and being the leader out there.

Q. You mentioned just the emotions and the nerves for today. What were your expectations? How do you — how did you set out to kind of balance everything, and what did you expect about who may call you or where it may happen?

DARIUS MUASAU: Honestly, I did not know what to expect coming into this day. I had no idea when I was going to go or if my name was even going to be called in the first place. Just looking forward to any opportunity coming my way, and I know once I got that phone call, I know the first thing that came to my mind is I’ve got to make the most of this opportunity. Because not too many people are given this opportunity like me. I know there are a lot of other guys that they could have given the chance to, but they chose me over them. They see something in me, and I want to prove them right.

Q. Ghobi is new to us, you know him a heck of a lot more than we do. How would you describe him as a coach and what are the Giants getting in him as a coach as a special teams coordinator?

DARIUS MUASAU: High-energy. Very intellectual football-minded coach. He’s great on the special teams side of football. He knows the insides and outs, but also the offensive and defensive side. He specializes in the special teams. When I was playing for him at the University of Hawaii, man, I enjoyed every single time I got on the field for special teams because he just made everything so fun, and because of the way he was able to detail everything down to the minute details, and just made it fun out there every time I would step off on kickoff can kickoff return. Everything was a blast out there.

Q. What does it mean to reunite with him at the pro level and get to work with him at this stage of your career?

DARIUS MUASAU: It’s a great feeling, man. He was in touch, actually, throughout this whole process, kind of being my mentor through things. Giving me little tips and pointers here and there. How to relieve the stress and just see things through. Man, I was really grateful for him to be by my side throughout this whole process, and it’s crazy that I’m actually going to be on the same team as him, you know, come these next few weeks, and I’m ready for that.

Q. Just to clarify real quick: Did he call you and you were talking and that’s when he broke the news that the Giants were drafting you, or did you speak to somebody else first and then he got on the line?

DARIUS MUASAU: I spoke with pretty much all the coaches at the time. Coach Ghobi didn’t call me first.

SATURDAY PRESS CONFERENCE WITH TYLER NUBIN…
Safety Tyler Nubin, who the Giants drafted on Day 2 of the NFL Draft, held a press conference at the team’s facility on Saturday. The transcript and video are available in The Corner Forum and on YouTube, respectively.

SATURDAY PRESS CONFERENCE WITH ANDRU PHILLIPS…
Cornerback Andru Phillips, who the Giants drafted on Day 2 of the NFL Draft, held a press conference at the team’s facility on Saturday. The transcript and video are available in The Corner Forum and on YouTube, respectively.

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Tyler Nubin, Minnesota Golden Gophers (August 31, 2023)

Tyler Nubin – © USA TODAY Sports

NEW YORK GIANTS DRAFT TYLER NUBIN AND X…
On the second day of the 2024 NFL Draft, the New York Giants selected:

  • 2nd Round: S Tyler Nubin, 6’1”, 205lbs, 4.62, University of Minnesota
  • 3rd Round: CB Andru Phillips, 5’11”, 190lbs, 4.48, University of Kentucky

Sy’56’s Scouting Report on S Tyler Nubin: Fifth year senior. Three-year starter. All-Big. Ten three straight years, first team in 2023 in addition to second team All-American honors. Nubin is one of the most experienced defensive backs in the class and one that contributed on special teams all five seasons. He led the Gophers on special teams tackles in both 2020 and 2023, a taste of his usage and impact along multiple mediums on a roster. At safety, Nubin improved his tackling year after year. He is both physical and technically sound, smart and aggressive. The ideal combination of traits as the final line of defense will be there for the team that brings him in. While his movement traits are good enough, there are issues with him playing a deep coverage role that needs to reach the sideline against vertical speed. His downhill bias has put him in bad spots and that fluidity to turn and catch up is not there. While some of those issues can be hidden with his excellent and consistent instincts and intelligence, he will not be the guy that can carry a secondary. Instead, he will be the reliable underneath and intermediate defender that can direct traffic and make plays on the ball when the opportunities are there. His 13 career interceptions set a program record and are top five all time in Big Ten history among safeties.

*Nubin is a guy you will like on tape 90% of the time but then you occasionally see something that worries you. He has the look, he has the footwork, and the dude made plays every year. 1 interception in 2020, 3 in 2021, 4 in 2022, 5 in 2023. All these boxes get checked left and right but the athletic profile for a guy who needs to play with a lot of range is questionable. He is a borderline first rounder for me but the elite special teams performance over his career could easily break the tie between him and someone else. High floor, limited ceiling.

Sy’56’s Scouting Report on CB Andru Phillips: One-year starter. Also part of the heavy rotation in the Kentucky defensive backfield in 2022 which hosted two eventual pro outside corners. Phillips moved from the slot to outside, although he played all over the defensive backfield all three years, in 2023. Former high school track standout that starred in triple jumps where he finished number one in the nation. That burst stands out on film. Although slightly undersized, Phillips already has a lot of pro traits in his arsenal. He is smooth as butter in his backpedal and his ability to stick is foot in the ground and explode downhill created a lot of impressive tape. The inside-out versatility in addition to impressive tape in both zone and man coverage will make him attractive to any team looking to upgrade the cornerback room. There are off-field concerns from an arrest in 2021 that need to be answered. He also failed to grab a single interception over his career. Phillips does not react as quickly in man coverage and there are too many missed tackles. The good and bad with him creates a wide margin within his projection, but this guy has starting corner written all over him.

*Phillips is a guy that picked up a lot of steam over the season. His movement traits and fluidity are so pro-caliber. When he makes plays on the ball, there are a few elite, hard-to-find components that immediately jump off the screen. That is how I first found him. I was watching Florida offense tape and this kid kept jumping off the screen. The physical limitations did impede some of his playmaking potential. He may have to be a slot only but man I love how he turns and runs. The character concerns need to be a part of his process, no question.

Media Q&A with General Manager Joe Schoen and Head Coach Brian Daboll (Video):

BRIAN DABOLL: So just before we start, Korey Cunningham, our thoughts and prayers are with his family. You know, not much to add to it. Just unfortunate circumstances that happened, and it’s tough. Tough on the coaches. Tough on the players. And we’re just praying for everybody involved.

Q. Can you talk about the safety in the second round, there was a big run on cornerbacks.

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, there was.

Q. I’m sure you noticed that.

JOE SCHOEN: There was but we were very, very fortunate to get (Tyler) Nubin there, a guy that we spent a lot of time with. He had an injury. We went out to his pro day when he was healthy to see him out there. Obviously losing (Xavier McKinney) in the off-season, to get Nubin at that value, a guy with high character, leadership, smart, tough, dependable, and then the 13 career interceptions. Just a good football player. Culture changer at the University of Minnesota and he’s going to bring that type of mentality here, and I think that will come out tomorrow when you guys meet with him and spend some time with him. Just a really special kid that’s a good football player.

Q. A bunch of teams traded up to get corners?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, there were.

Q. Was that ever a consideration for you?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, there were enough players there that we liked, and where we are, again, we have needs throughout the draft. And we were able to get a corner in round three that works out about as well in (Dru) Phillips.

Q. The top safety pick, the first safety, what separated him from some of the other guys?

JOE SCHOEN: I would say that he takes the ball away. 13 career interceptions. He’s a ball hawk. To me, the leadership, the character, the smarts, safety, the ability to communicate out there. To get guys to lined up I think is very important, and this kid is elite at those types of things.

Q. You mentioned the 13 interceptions a couple of times. Phillips had zero interceptions which stands out on the other end.

JOE SCHOEN: Right.

Q. Why is that not a concern, and what does he do well to make up for it?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, it is and some of these guys that are 5-11, 200, run 4-4 would be playing receivers if they had really good ball skills unfortunately. But no, I mean, he’s sticky. He’s in terms of coverage, he’s around the football a lot. And watching him down in the Senior Bowl on one-on-ones, he has a lot of traits and those are things we are going to work on. He’s in position, but he just has to finish a little bit better. But I really like the athlete, like the kid, look forward to him getting here. Told Wan’Dale, he’s got to be ready for practice because Dru said he was going to be locking him up. That will be good competition there.

Q. Do you view him as a slot corner?

JOE SCHOEN: He can play both. He’s got the versatility to play inside, and outside. But we have options because Flott can play inside, and outside as well. If he goes inside, Flott can go outside or vice-versa. The versatility is also attractive for all these guys with the new defense.

Q. Sounds like you’ll begin with him in the slot.

JOE SCHOEN: Most likely. I’ve leave that up to Dabs and his staff. We have options with him being able to play both and with Flott being able to do both.

Q. Playing sort of the opposite with Flott, do you plan to start him on the outside?

BRIAN DABOLL: We just drafted this young man. So, we’ll figure all that stuff out when we get into practice. We’ll be able to play both those guys at different spots and see how it all unfolds.

Q. Coming into the Draft, cornerback, and safety would have been looked at as your bigger needs. Taking these guys, does that preclude you from still adding in free agency after the Draft?

JOE SCHOEN: No. We still can. I think continuing to add depth throughout the roster is important, and again, there was — when we picked in the second, there was, gosh, there were probably five or six players that we liked, and you know, a guy goes — you can’t take them all, unfortunately.

I wish we could, but we were able to get a good football player, and that’s the most important thing, and we’re excited about Nubin.

Q. Four years ago, this franchise, not you, drafted Xavier in the second round. Is this almost getting a younger, cheaper version of him or just the position value kind of thing?

JOE SCHOEN: Younger and cheaper, yes. This young man has not played a snap in the league yet, so he’ll come here. He’ll compete. We still have some guys in the safety room that we like and he’ll have to come and earn his spot but we like the young man. He’s a good football player, and again, he’s got a lot of dominant traits in his play.

Q. Was there any consideration to quarterback in round two or three?

JOE SCHOEN: We took the best player at both spots. The way it fell, the two guys we took were the best guys at that time.

Q. Nubin said that he played most of the year, or six games with a meniscus. You mentioned last night how you liked the toughness of Nabers with the shoulder. I don’t want to say that’s a trend but that kind of toughness for you what did that mean for both of you guys?

BRIAN DABOLL: I’d say the college scouts, Joe, and his staff, have done a really good job of identifying these traits that we covet. Toughness being probably near the top. And all three of the players that we’ve acquired so far, really fit that mold in terms of, I’d say mentally tough and physically tough. I think that’s important. Defensively, tough tacklers. You know, Dru, he’ll bring the wood now. And Malik’s mentality, how he is, and then you guys talked to Tyler. Both Tyler and Dru, were pretty emotional when we called them. They care about the game. They have the right mindset, and it’s a credit to our college scouts, Joe, and his staff, for really identifying some of those traits and we’re happy to have both of them.

Q. There was a burglary arrest in Phillips’ background that got dismissed. I think the teammates even filed a lawsuit after. What did you learn about that in your research?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, there’s nothing there for him. You guys can read up on it but he was cleared and yeah, there was a lawsuit eventually after that. So yeah, we’re good with all that.

Q. Do you think the knee during the season may have slowed down and changed how Nubin played maybe if he was a hundred percent healthy?

JOE SCHOEN: I’m sure it was bothering him at some point during the season but again that’s the way the kid’s wired. You had the question about the injury, and again, it’s a long season, 17 games and training camp. These guys are all playing through nicks and dings and whatever it may be. So it’s a testament to the kid’s character and toughness to play through that stuff because it’s going to happen here. It wasn’t a light injury. He was in some pain. So just the fact that he wanted to be out there his last year at Minnesota and not let his teammates down, I think that’s a testament to who the kid is.

Q. You have a new defensive coordinator, how much is what his vision for what he wants to manifest in these two players?

BRIAN DABOLL: I’d say that Shane (Bowen) has done a really good job along with the defensive staff of identifying the players that fit what we want to do, communicating with Joe and his staff, and like I’ve said, they have done a great job of putting people out there that we think can help us on both sides of the ball.

Q. From a scouting perspective, was there anything different you were kind of looking for for secondary players in these guys with Shane and the new defense?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, I would say that –

Q. Obviously less man.

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, probably less man, not as much press. But still the versatility piece I think came up multiple times, whether it was if we would not have gotten a corner in the third, well, okay, Dane Belton has versatility, J-Pinn (Jason Pinnock), Tyler, like how can those guys play, (Isaiah) Simmons. The versatility and the chess pieces, I think Shane is going to do a good job moving those guys around. The versatility piece came up multiple times in our meetings.

Q. The Panthers traded up right in front of you in the second round for a running back. Do you think they thought you were thinking running back there?

JOE SCHOEN: I’m not sure. I’m really tight with Dan. Dan Morgan is one of my best friends in the world. We didn’t talk much about that. They called us, as well, so it was like, hey, would you maybe want to move back? I don’t know if he just got antsy. In some of those situations, it’s not always just us. Maybe other teams are trying to trade up with the team from us. So you don’t know, when you find somebody you like and you want to go get them and they are within range, you try to pull the trigger. I’m not sure if he thought we might do that or not.

Q. Were you contemplating running back at all today, and is it something you would like to fill at least at some point in this draft?

JOE SCHOEN: Yeah, again, just the amount of needs on the roster, we were looking across the board. Again, we were taking the best player available the first three days and that will shift. Maybe if there’s a safety, we like in the fourth round, maybe you look a different direction or if it’s — maybe receiver, so you kind of adjust your board as you — based on who you’ve picked before. So yeah, we won’t rule that out.

Q. Didn’t ask this last night, but did picking neighbors impact Darius’s stats? He’s in an unsettled spot. Does that make him more apt to be traded?

JOE SCHOEN: No, again, we’ve already paid a roster bonus. He had one that kicked in the fifth day of the league year, and you look at the P5, where that is, and you want to look at the production from last year to this year and you take all those things into account. Us drafting Malik Neighbors doesn’t affect where we are on that.

Q. What do you like about your defense now after the moves you’ve made?

JOE SCHOEN: I know the players that are under contract for more than one year. So again, Dexter is under contract. His contract status. Burns is for five years. Kayvon for three. Okereke for another three, Tae Banks for four, and just got Nubin for four years. You’ve got a young core group of players that will be able to be together for — and again, I know people want instant gratification, but it takes time to build this, and then over time, you have guys that are able to create continuity because they play together year over year. It was something we experienced in Buffalo. By the time we left, some of those guys had been playing together for four years in the same exact scheme, same defense, and playing together. I think that’s important from communication and just being on the same page when you’re playing as 1/11 and everybody knowing their job. I’m excited about the young core that we have together and the guys that are under contract for multiple years and even guys that may only have a year left that potentially we can extend down the road. But I do think we have pieces in place that I like that are going to be together for a couple of years here.

Q. Have you had any further clarification on Darren, whether he’s coming back or —

JOE SCHOEN: No, nothing’s changed there. We’re still giving him space and when he’s ready to make a decision, we’ll have those conversations.

Media Q&A with Tyler Nubin:

Q. Tyler, congratulations…

TYLER NUBIN: What’s going on, man. Thank you, thank you so much.

Q. Just curious, how much interaction did you have with the Giants in this process and what was your reaction when they called you to let you know you were their pick?

TYLER NUBIN: I had great interactions with them. They came out and saw me. I did a workout for them. Got on the board, had a great conversation with their coaches. A great conversation with them at the Combine, too, as well, going over film. It was a great atmosphere being around them, and being around Coach Daboll, as well. It was great, honestly. I was so happy when they called me and when that call came in because we already had a connection.

Q. What kind of player are you and what are you bringing to the Giants, do you think?

TYLER NUBIN: I’m an everything player. I feel like I’m a guy that can do it all on the field. I like to call myself a Swiss Army knife. I can move around everywhere. I can blitz. I am come down and hit the box, I can play over the top. Anywhere on the field I’m comfortable.

Q. Who from the team was there for your work out?

TYLER NUBIN: The safeties coach (Michael Treier) and I think their assistant GM (Brandon Brown).

Q. What about your ability to track the ball and intercept it? Seems to be something you did quite well in college.

TYLER NUBIN: It comes from my preparation, for real. I feel like that’s really what it is – how I approach the game, the things I do throughout the week to set myself up for success on the weekend, on Saturdays, now Sundays, to make the game easy.

Q. When you met with the Giants, you know, they are coming in with a new defensive system and with a new defensive coordinator, did you get to do any work with them as far as what you’ll be asked to do, what they expect their safeties to do?

TYLER NUBIN: Yeah. We did a little bit of work on just understanding the basics of their defense and what they ask their safeties to do. Not specifically what they want me to do. Just being able to teach me a couple things.

Q. How emotional of a moment was that when your phone rang and it was the Giants?

TYLER NUBIN: Oh, man, I’ve been crying the last 35 minutes (laughs). No, for real.

Q. What were you doing tonight? What were the plans and how were you approaching tonight?

TYLER NUBIN: I had a bunch of my family and friends, we had a little venue that we rented just with couches and tables to watch the Draft. I was surrounded by all of my close family and friends. So when that came in, it was awesome, man, to be around them.

Q. For you personally, why did it hit so hard? What about it made it so special to you?

TYLER NUBIN: Honestly, not even thinking about the work that I put in. The work everybody around me put in, my parents have been working so hard for me all my life, being able to set me up in a good situation. You know, teach me the right things. All of my family and friends around me, on top of the work that I put in, there’s just so many people and so many sacrifices that were made over a long period of time leading up to this moment, it just all came out. Honestly that’s what it was.

Q. I read a story about you in The Star Tribune that when, I believe, you were in Illinois, living in Illinois and you kind of met with a coach to say that you were going to put in the work to get to be, frankly, in the position you’re in now. Do I have some of that right or all of that right?

TYLER NUBIN: Yeah, yeah, that was my high school coach.

Q. Okay…

TYLER NUBIN: Yeah.

Q. Have you heard from (center) John Michael Schmitz yet?

TYLER NUBIN: I have not. My phone is blowing up. I’ve got to call him, actually.

Q. Are you good friends with him or do you know him pretty well since you guys were teammates?

TYLER NUBIN: Oh, yeah, me and John Michael are super close. I was actually hoping I’d get a chance to play with him and (inside linebacker) Carter (Coughlin).

Q. I read that you had a knee surgery after the season. Just what was the problem with your knee and how much did that affect you in the pre-Draft process?

TYLER NUBIN: Yeah, so I played like six games on a torn meniscus last year. Got it scoped at the end of the season. I kind of accelerated my recovery process to get myself ready for the Combine because I really wanted to compete at the Combine and pro day. So, that kind of bit me in the butt a little bit. It affected me, but honestly, I wouldn’t do anything differently than I did because I really just wanted to compete.

Q. I saw some clips of you. You looked like you are a center fielder out there. Is that how you read the play?

TYLER NUBIN: Yeah, I’m real comfortable running under the ball and going to get it. That’s my game for real.

Q. I think you were the first safety taken. Does that mean something to you, and were you aware of that? Like did you compare yourself to the other guys throughout the process?

TYLER NUBIN: Honestly, I’m just thankful for this opportunity. I was going to cry my eyes out no matter where I was picked, if I was picked here or picked 199, I’m just thankful to be in this position. I can’t wait to get to work for the Giants.

Q. What are you most excited about for this opportunity?

TYLER NUBIN: Playing football, honestly, and getting back to playing football. Doing the thing I love most and doing it well and helping the Giants win.

Q. Have you ever been to this area?

TYLER NUBIN: Yeah, I’ve been to New York. We had a Bowl game out in New York. That was actually my first time staying there a couple years ago. It was awesome. I love the city.

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Media Q&A with Andru Phillips:

Q. What’s tonight been like for you?

DRU PHILLIPS: It’s been a night. You know, you sit there, you wait for a little bit, you don’t know. But right now, I can’t even explain it, man. This has meant the world to me.

Q. What do you think about coming to New York, playing for the Giants and being in this area and the City?

DRU PHILLIPS: I can’t think of a better organization to go play for. I had one of my Top-30s up there and everyone up there was so cool and it was like, I feel like I fit in right along. I can’t wait to go up there and play ball and fit in with everybody.

Q. What makes you think you fit in, or like on that visit what stood out to you to make you feel that way?

DRU PHILLIPS: It came with the history of the program. I was walking around the facility and it has so much history and then you get to meet the people and the coaches and everyone, we bonded so well and we all have the same goal, which is to go out there and win, genuinely go out there and do anything to win the football game. I met what type of people they are, and they are the same. Just good people and that’s what I kind of lean towards, so I’m happy to be a part of this organization.

Q. What are the practice battles with (wide receiver) Wan’Dale Robinson going to be like?

DRU PHILLIPS: Man, I can’t even describe it. We’ve been talking crap for so long, he even just called me. II can’t wait to go against a great player like him. He’s established himself in a way up there in New York, and being able to compete and just go win and get better each and every day against him. It’s going to be a great competition.

Q. How many years have you played together?

DRU PHILLIPS: We played one year at Kentucky. I was younger, though. He may have had the best of me back then, but I think it’s different for me now.

Q. How comfortable are you playing on the outside? It seems like your best position might be in the slot. How comfortable are you on the outside?

DRU PHILLIPS: Yeah, especially after this past year when I played both, that outside became so comfortable by the last game of the season – I was out there, (inaudible) outside corners, but off my skill set and comfortability, it felt like second nature. It was right there really with the inside. It just takes more reps and stuff, but I’m right there. I can compete with anybody.

Q. How often were you asked about the interception total throughout this whole process and how do you explain, I would imagine, I don’t know if the emotions are frustrating, that you were close. How do you explain not being able to get one?

DRU PHILLIPS: I was asked about it, but in the grand scheme of everything, everybody knows I’m sticky. In coverage, I’m sticky. I’m going to get the ball off dudes. I’m going to do my job in the back end. It was asked, but at the same time, they understand who I am, when I was coming in, I’ve shown (inaudible) going to catch no type of balls in that type of sense. You know, I’m just trying to get the balls off guys, it was a question, but they understand it like I’m doing my job, I’m doing it at a very high level. So, they trust me.

Q. How are your hands?

DRU PHILLIPS: Man, they are really good. They are really good. But at the same time, there’s always work to get better. I’m always going to work to get better at it. I’m on the JUGS machine. I’m going to be up there in New York and just working, I’m going to get the turnovers.

Q. What was your night like tonight? What was the setup and what were you thinking? Did you expect to go tonight? Talk about the emotions of it all…

DRU PHILLIPS: Yeah, so I thought I was going to go tonight. But I have my family and I have my friends over. It’s just how the Draft plays out. You don’t know. I just put my faith into God, and I was talking to my family, and I was hoping to land at a great organization and I’m glad I landed at the Giants. It’s a great fit for me and a great organization, as well.

Q. Do you prefer Dru or Andru?

DRU PHILLIPS: Yeah, you guys can call me Dru. I go by Dru.

Q. How many 30s did you take?

DRU PHILLIPS: I took basically ten 30s. If you want to count one, the Rams, they don’t fly people out, but I did ten 30s (visits).

FRIDAY PRESS CONFERENCE WITH MALIK NABERS…
Wide receiver Malik Nabers, who the Giants drafted in the 1st round on Thursday, held a press conference at the team’s facility on Friday. The transcript and video are available in The Corner Forum and on YouTube.

Apr 252024
 

New York Giants 2024 NFL Draft Review

Round Pick in Round Overall Selection Player Selected Video
1 6 6 WR Malik Nabers (Video)
2 7 39 Traded for OLB Brian Burns
2 15 47 S Tyler Nubin (Video)
3 6 70 CB Andru Phillips (Video)
4 7 107 TE Theo Johnson (Video)
5 31 166 RB Tyrone Tracy, Jr. (Video)
6 7 183 LB Darius Muasau (Video)

2024 Draft Pick Scouting Reports

1st Round – WR Malik Nabers, 6’0”, 200lbs, 4.35, LSU

Sy’56’s Scouting Report: Junior entry, three-year starter. All-American and first team All-SEC in 2023. Nabers steadily developed from a high school player who did not play as a senior to one of the most productive receivers in the country. He plays a notably physical brand for the position with level of competitiveness that shows up in several ways. Blended in with his elite top-end burst and above average speed, Nabers has the style of a guy that can evolve into a credible number one threat. His routes need work in specific areas but they are already elite in others, showing the likelihood of his quality projection in that area. The savvy, team-first playmaker is going to be a coach’s favorite and has the upside of a true number one with his top trait being what comes after the catch.

*We have seen glimpses and heard Brian Daboll discuss how much value a playmaker after the catch can be in his system. We’ve also heard how much he values a guy that can line up in different spots. Something like that makes me think he can be the guy that is atop their list in a few weeks. Nabers has elite twitch and toughness. His issues with drops have come from the fact he makes his post-catch move prior to bringing the ball in. That has been somewhat corrected and when it clicks, it looks special. The concept of pairing him with an eventual new, young quarterback makes sense. Nabers and Wan’Dale Robinson can create serious excitement in that area and if everything else falls into place, watch out. This would actually take some pressure off the quarterback much like the situation around Brock Purdy in SF. Nabers will be a fun player.

Joe Schoen’s Take: “He’s a guy who’s been on our radar for quite some time, explosive playmaker, can play multiple spots. Can separate and has run-after-the-catch, very good hands, very productive in a difficult conference… I’m fired up about the kid… He’s a really good player. And we were at the pro day, we had him in on a 30 visit and went to dinner with him a couple different times. Getting around the kid, he’s a great kid. He’s super competitive. He’s driven. And I’m excited about having him… He’s tough, doesn’t miss games, doesn’t miss practice. If he can play, he’s going to play. That’s the way this kid is wired… Looking forward to bringing some of that toughness and explosiveness to the roster… To me it always goes back to grit, toughness, tenacity. You can’t coach that. You can’t teach that. I think this kid best illustrates it.”

Brian Daboll’s Take: “I’m excited about Malik. He’s a heck of a player. He’s a fun guy to evaluate. Like Joe talked about, he’s got quickness, explosive, good run after the catch. He’s got a great mindset in terms of the competitive style he plays with. Played well in big games… He was obviously ultra productive at LSU. Made a ton of plays. I would say deep, intermediate, short… I love his personality. He’s a very, very competitive young man.”

Media Q&A with Malik Nabers: (Full Transcript)


2nd Round – Tyler Nubin, 6’1”, 205lbs, 4.62, University of Minnesota

Sy’56’s Scouting Report: Fifth year senior. Three-year starter. All-Big. Ten three straight years, first team in 2023 in addition to second team All-American honors. Nubin is one of the most experienced defensive backs in the class and one that contributed on special teams all five seasons. He led the Gophers on special teams tackles in both 2020 and 2023, a taste of his usage and impact along multiple mediums on a roster. At safety, Nubin improved his tackling year after year. He is both physical and technically sound, smart and aggressive. The ideal combination of traits as the final line of defense will be there for the team that brings him in. While his movement traits are good enough, there are issues with him playing a deep coverage role that needs to reach the sideline against vertical speed. His downhill bias has put him in bad spots and that fluidity to turn and catch up is not there. While some of those issues can be hidden with his excellent and consistent instincts and intelligence, he will not be the guy that can carry a secondary. Instead, he will be the reliable underneath and intermediate defender that can direct traffic and make plays on the ball when the opportunities are there. His 13 career interceptions set a program record and are top five all time in Big Ten history among safeties.

*Nubin is a guy you will like on tape 90% of the time but then you occasionally see something that worries you. He has the look, he has the footwork, and the dude made plays every year. 1 interception in 2020, 3 in 2021, 4 in 2022, 5 in 2023. All these boxes get checked left and right but the athletic profile for a guy who needs to play with a lot of range is questionable. He is a borderline first rounder for me but the elite special teams performance over his career could easily break the tie between him and someone else. High floor, limited ceiling.

Joe Schoen’s Take: “A guy that we spent a lot of time with. He had an injury. We went out to his pro day when he was healthy to see him out there. Obviously losing (Xavier McKinney) in the off-season, to get Nubin at that value, a guy with high character, leadership, smart, tough, dependable, and then the 13 career interceptions. Just a good football player. Culture changer at the University of Minnesota and he’s going to bring that type of mentality here, and I think that will come out tomorrow when you guys meet with him and spend some time with him. Just a really special kid that’s a good football player… He takes the ball away. 13 career interceptions. He’s a ball hawk. To me, the leadership, the character, the smarts, safety, the ability to communicate out there. To get guys to lined up I think is very important, and this kid is elite at those types of things.”

Media Q&A with Tyler Nubin: (Full Transcript)


3rd Round – CB Andru Phillips, 5’11”, 190lbs, 4.48, University of Kentucky

Sy’56’s Scouting Report: One-year starter. Also part of the heavy rotation in the Kentucky defensive backfield in 2022 which hosted two eventual pro outside corners. Phillips moved from the slot to outside, although he played all over the defensive backfield all three years, in 2023. Former high school track standout that starred in triple jumps where he finished number one in the nation. That burst stands out on film. Although slightly undersized, Phillips already has a lot of pro traits in his arsenal. He is smooth as butter in his backpedal and his ability to stick is foot in the ground and explode downhill created a lot of impressive tape. The inside-out versatility in addition to impressive tape in both zone and man coverage will make him attractive to any team looking to upgrade the cornerback room. There are off-field concerns from an arrest in 2021 that need to be answered. He also failed to grab a single interception over his career. Phillips does not react as quickly in man coverage and there are too many missed tackles. The good and bad with him creates a wide margin within his projection, but this guy has starting corner written all over him.

*Phillips is a guy that picked up a lot of steam over the season. His movement traits and fluidity are so pro-caliber. When he makes plays on the ball, there are a few elite, hard-to-find components that immediately jump off the screen. That is how I first found him. I was watching Florida offense tape and this kid kept jumping off the screen. The physical limitations did impede some of his playmaking potential. He may have to be a slot only but man I love how he turns and runs. The character concerns need to be a part of his process, no question.

Joe Schoen’s Take: “He’s sticky. He’s in terms of coverage, he’s around the football a lot. And watching him down in the Senior Bowl on one-on-ones, he has a lot of traits and those are things we are going to work on. He’s in position (to make interceptions), but he just has to finish a little bit better. But I really like the athlete, like the kid, look forward to him getting here. Told Wan’Dale (Robinson), he’s got to be ready for practice because Dru said he was going to be locking him up. That will be good competition there… He’s got the versatility to play inside, and outside. But we have options because (Cor’Dale) Flott can play inside, and outside as well. If he goes inside, Flott can go outside or vice-versa. The versatility is also attractive for all these guys with the new defense.”

Media Q&A with Andru Phillips: (Full Transcript)


4th Round – TE Theo Johnson, 6’6”, 259lbs, 4.57, Penn State University

Sy’56’s Scouting Report: Three-year starter. All-Big Ten in 2023. Johnson has the prototype body merged with soft hands and quick feet to pose as a potential starting tight end in the league. He has shown flashes of being a matchup nightmare for both linebackers and defensive backs. The catch radius and sheer weight he can play should help with some of the short area movement issues he shows as a route runner and ball carrier to have at least a quality backup outlook. The athletic upside he possesses leaves the door open to a bigger role. He brings a rare blend of size and speed to the table that coaches will want a crack at developing. Johnson needs to clean up some of the fine points of the position to reach his ceiling, but the floor with him is high to feel safe about him providing solid rotational play, at least.

*I’ll say this right now. Johnson has the ceiling to be the top tight end in this class (including Bowers). That fact alone leads me to believe he should be graded a bit higher. But the number is the number. He has several flashes on tape combined with a historic blend of size, explosion, and speed. At this time, however, he is a better athlete than he is a football player. I felt that way after watching tape and when I saw him in person at the Senior Bowl. It looks like he is still learning his body and simply lacks some important coordination and football reaction speed. Worth the gamble because he could change an offense. Maybe a similar trajectory we have seen with Cole Kmet with the Bears.

Joe Schoen’s Take: “Theo was the top player on our board… He was sticking out for us. You always think when you come in the next morning, he’s going to go sooner and may not be there and we’re excited to get Theo.”

Media Q&A with Player: (Full Transcript)


5th Round – RB Tyrone Tracy, Jr., 5’11”, 209lbs, 4.48, Purdue University

Sy’56’s Scouting Report: Sixth-year senior. Four-year starter that spent four seasons at Iowa before his final two at Purdue. Tracy will turn 25 years old as a rookie but in terms of running back age, he is younger than most. He played wide receiver from 2018-2022 before moving into the backfield full time in his final year. In that one season, Tracy finished fourth in the country in yards after contact per attempt in the country among backs with over 100 carries. His career was sputtering, as his best season as a receiver came in 2019. The smooth position move opened a door, one that is searching for pass game weapons out of the backfield. Tracy is not a dynamic or explosive athlete, but he simply knows what to do with the ball in his hands and it shows up as a returner as well. His progression will be an interesting one to follow, one with a high ceiling.

*Tracy is one of the more interesting prospects in the entire draft. He runs like he doesn’t always know what he’s doing but that is part of the intrigue. What happens to him if it does click? He is already productive, and he is already a top-shelf pass catcher the position. He already adds return value. Something about him simply makes sense for a chance on day three because Singletary could easily be elsewhere before the end of 2024, let alone pre-2025. And I view that as the season this team can be ready to compete.

Brian Daboll’s Take: “He’s a former receiver. In terms of yards per carry, he’s been pretty good. He’s an athlete who has played receiver and then played running back and has some good production. We’ll throw him in the mix. Whether that’s in the kickoff return game or whether that’s at running back or the receiving part of it, we’ve got to do a good job of getting him in here and seeing where he’s at and then trying to fit him into the things that he can do well.”

Media Q&A with Player: (Full Transcript)


6th Round – Darius Muasau, 6’0”, 225lbs, 4.7, UCLA

Sy’56’s Scouting Report: Fifth-year senior, four-year starter. Spent three seasons at Hawaii where he was first team All-Mountain West two times. Transferred to UCLA in 2022 where he was All-Pac 12 in both 2023 and 2022. Muasau is a productive run defender who can lead a defense from the middle. He is an experienced shot caller who understands blocking schemes a step or two ahead, which helps him get on the right side of blockers as he attacks downhill. Muasau does not have the size or athletic tool set to factor against the pass, whether it be as a pass rusher or cover man. His usage at the next level will be limited to early down duty and special teams. The toughness, dependability, and football IQ can keep him on a roster as a quality, dependable backup and role player.

*Muasau is a guy who will be drafted late for special teams alone. This is the kind of guy who teams look for toward the back end to beef up their presence on kickoff/punt cover units. As a middle linebacker, Muasau is not athletic enough to check all of the boxes but he is a dependable player between the tackles. His range is limited, but his dependable and consistent interior run defense can provide something for a team that needs help there.

Joe Schoen’s Take: “He’s a good football player. He was actually with Ghoby (Special Teams Coordinator Michael Ghobrial), our special teams coach, they crossed paths at Hawaii. 440 career tackles, hasn’t missed a game, smart, tough, dependable, instinctive. Our special teams coach, he’s coached him, has a vision for him on special teams. He was at the East-West, and I would say — Tyrone Tracy was, too. Having our coaches and Shea at the Senior Bowl with Theo. I think there’s a little bit of competitive advantage in terms of — again, going back to Dabs’ staff and their willingness to sacrifice their time to help us in this process, and I would say all three of those guys that we took today, our coaches had intimate knowledge of those guys from the all-star games.”

Media Q&A with Player: (Full Transcript)


Rookie Free Agent Scouting Reports

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